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But, I went to the iPhone over the summer with the 3GS. It was a agonizing decision, and I don't regret it. Things that have disapointed me about Windows Mobile:
1) After 13 years is it too much to ask that the OS be stable and reliable? On my AT&T Tilt that is running WinMo 6.1 I soft reset it more in any given three days than I have had to soft reset my iPhone in 4 months. At the law firm where I work, many of the Attorneys who bought WinMo devices got rid of them because of stability/reliability issues.
2) Applications. The iPhone apps are great. They follow strict guidelines and work well on the system. WinMo apps have always been cobbled together. There were a lot of them, but the lack of standards has contributed to Issue 1).
3) Slow upgrade path. Windows CE 1.0 came out in 1996. Here it is 2009 and we are on Windows Mobile 6.5. 6.5 versions in 13 years. Do the math, that is a new version every two years. The iPhone is on version 3.2 after 3 years. Android is on version 2 after a year. It seems like Microsoft can't even settle on a name, one day its Windows CE, Windows Mobile, Pocket PC, Windows Phone... whatever.
4) Support. What support? Look what someone has to do to upgrade the OS on a WinMo device vs. the iPhone. The best source of support are the power users and hackers, not Microsoft.
5) Ease of use. The interface for WinMo is old, dated and not very easy to use. My wife used one of my old WinMo devices and she HATED it. And she's in IT. She hated trying to get around the interface, she hated that she had to soft reset it. She got an iPhone and took to it like a fish in water. I gave my 10 year old an iPod Touch I got as a door prize. She loves it and gets around easily using it. I tried having her use one of my old iPaq's and she never took to it. I think that says something about the iPhone interface that it is powerful enough to satisfy a power user like me, but easy enough for a 10 year old to use.
6) Innovation. What innovation? Microsoft has been in the mobile space for 13 years. What the hell happened? There is no good reason that they shouldn't absolutely own this market? Now they aren't the market leader, they are the company that people are wondering if it is going to continue in the market. I can't believe that would be Microsoft.
7) Marketing. I can't watch primetime TV without seeing an iPhone commercial. I have NEVER seen a WinMo commercial. Who does Microsoft expect is going to buy their products? Microsoft used to understand Marketing. What happened?
I would love to go back to Windows Mobile. I have my eye on the HD2. But I am going to hold out for WinMo7 and see if it fixes any of the problems I have with WinMo. If it doesn't I won't give WinMo another look, because there won't be anything to see.
1. The interaction is cleaner and smoother. Rarely any lag and very polished.
2. Larger screen. Now that HTC has released the TP2 and Touch HD2, this doesn't really count, but that was the case when I switched over.
Also, I already use iTunes for my iPod classic, so it was an easier interface for me to use in conjunction to adding media to my phone. I may go back to WM one day, but I am currently a 3gs user and loving it.
When the iPhone was announced I got very excited, but with only the built in apps, it wasn't for me.
Since then the App Store was released and most of the developers that made my WM apps started making iPhone versions. Our phone contract was up for renewal shortly after the 3GS came out and it was the right time to buy.
I thought I would miss having memory card expansions, but with built in gps and 32 gb of storage, I'm finding that the iPhone is quite sufficient.
I would have jumped on almost any of the newer HTC devices out there, but the iPhone was slick, in my price range, and finger friendly, no stylus is a handy thing.
I will have to say, WM devices are awesome because of the wide range of free applications that are available, and the built in ability to browse files and such. For a power user like myself, jailbreaking the iPhone is the only way to really get the device configured to my liking, something that wasn't needed with WM.
A few of the reasons I left the ATT 8525 Windows Mobile phone behind:
1. Battery life on my WinMo devices is embarrassing, not to mention impractical. (Although the latest OS update has my iPhone in close competition.)
2. Prices for apps for Windows Mobile are insane, especially compared to how they look/perform. Why pay $9.99 for a WinMo version of an app that is only $.99 for iPhone?)
3. Tired of rebooting the phone every day, sometimes several times a day, same with all my WinMo devices - they seem to freeze up too easily.
4. Physical QWERTY keyboard was nice, but bulky & made the phone feel more fragile whenever I bumped it.
5. Storage on the device - was thinking flexibility of using a 2gb or 4gb SD card was awesome, then accepted that a 32gb device without the need for SD cards which could get lost or damaged made more sense.
6. Both have a good variety of apps, but I found myself leaning more and more towards apps that mimicked the ones made for iPhone - also, for example: games on iPhone vs WinMo? No comparison.
7. Updates for WinMo - few and far between. Feels like iPhone is more scheduled in that regard - with WinMo, I never knew when to expect updates, except that they would be delayed once announced.
8. Larger, brighter, more vibrant screen - didn't realize what I had been missing. Can now use my phone outside in the summer!
9. No need for a stylus any more, thought I would miss it, now just glad I don't have to use it.
10. Previous WinMo phone was HTC model, which meant headphone adapter required to listen to music on it - which made me never listen to music on it.
Ps. I've gotten 15+ emails too!
Overall I'm die hard Windows Mobile! I've been using it since 1999 when i got an HP Jornada!
Let me know your thoughts or if you have any suggestions for me.
@KV4S
Since all these guys are trying to imitate iPhone on WinMo, why not try the iPhone? Try what they are trying to copy, and see what all the hype is about. And so I tried it, and I am currently enjoying it very much. It is fun to play with, easy to use, and just cool to have.
Don't get me wrong, I still love WinMo, but I think MS needs to push out a BIG update (like WinMo 6.5.1) before I consider going back. iPhone is more streamlined, more user friendly, while still being a very powerful phone. The screenshots of WinMo 6.5.1 seem to show this streamlinedness. It also shows designs that stray from the bland interface that MS has used since Pocket PC 2000. The interface looks sleek, updated, and cool.
But this is all just me.
When I got the Blackjack, I was because the iPhone had no 3g. When I got the Tilt, I wanted a better browsing experience. The Browser in Windows Mobile worked on about half the sites I wanted. Opera 9 was an good browser (the least-bad option), but stuck in infinite beta. We were promised a better IE to compete with the iPhone (Fall 2008, really!), but that was going to require a new OS and a new device.
With all of the Windows Mobile devices I owned, I only ONCE got an OS upgrade (the Blackjack to WM6 Standard). In the Windows Mobile OEM/Carrier model, carriers have little financial motivation to offer OS upgrades. I installed cooked ROMs with some benefit, but they are a hassle just to get software that the OEM includes in updated devices, and software plucked from newer devices is hit or miss.
Of all of my Windows Phones, the Blackjack did the best job of being a Phone - it always worked the way I expected it to. The lack of touchscreen and poor browsing experience are the reasons I gave that away. The Pocket-PC Phone (WM Professional) line was still slow in WM 6, and the Phone part always felt glued on, not an integral part.
Ultimately, I went with the iPhone because of the beautiful, capacitive touchscreen and compelling desktop web browsing experience. Do I miss a stylus? no. Do I like the onscreen keyboard? Yes. Is it a good phone? Absolutely.
Say what you want about Apple being too controlling; because they own the hardware platform and the software platform, they have provided an awesome user experience, and -- get this -- they have made available every OS upgrade to all devices - all the way back to the original iPhone. That is simply not possible in the fragmented world of Windows Mobile.
Ultimately, the user experience of the iPhone wins out over all of the minor downsides of the platform. It years ahead of Windows Mobile in 2007, and is only now getting some real competition... from Android.
When the iPhone 2G came out, it wasn't 3G and didn't have GPS, and it was shortly after that when I got the HTC TyTN II. This had everything: 3G, GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, etc. etc. That was October 2007.
Then the iPhone 3G came out in summer 2008, and that was quite a compelling device for me, but because I was tied in to my Vodafone contract I didn't get it.
Earlier this year, my 18-month Vodafone contract finished, and I'd already made my mind up to get whatever the 3rd gen iPhone was going to be (which turned out to be the 3GS) -- it was just a case of waiting for it to be announced and become available.
The main reasons I had for switching were:
- the iPhone "just works"
- the iPhone is very responsive (largely due to the capacitive touch screen)
- it's a smaller/lighter device than the HTC TyTN II
- Windows Mobile (in its standard incarnation) needs a stylus to operate
Having said all that, I do not like one bit that Apple operate a closed system. I've recently jailbroken my iPhone, and now I can install pretty much what I want (though I would say that it's still not as open/flexible as WinMo is, especially when it comes to using cooked ROMs available on XDA Developers).
I'm keeping a very close eye on Google Android, and the v2 software just announced looks very interesting. I reckon that in another year or so that platform will be very compelling, especially if HTC come out with and HD2 equivalent for Android.
Honestly, I miss T-Mobile & WM to some extent, but the iPhone is really filling my needs now. I may come back to WM one day - possibly when my current contract with AT&T is up but we'll just have to see.
I find the iphone easier to use for email, facebook, as a phone, etc. The bluetooth connections seem more stable. I have added only a few apps (all free) and not tweaked anything. I almost dread swaping my sim back on Monday mornings to go back to the Fuze!
The reason I switched is that am used to being the "tech guy" to my friends and coworkers and WM has lost the wow factor it used to have. I used to impress friends with my X50v's amazing games, load a bunch of high quality videos onto it to show to coworkers during downtime. The Blackjack was my first innate web enabled WM device (i tethered my X50v to my old sprint phone). Having IE and 3g sufficed for a while but it has been two years and it was time for an upgrade again. I did all sorts of research and had picked out the Tilt2 from AT&T but after the release of the pure and the posting of the Tilt2 price I began to wonder if it wasn't just better to get an iPhone. I pretty much set on an iPhone when Chris posted his "switching" post and sealed the deal. I went out that next Friday on bought my white 32gb iPhone 3Gs.
I'm not sure that I'll go back to WM, I love the iPhone so much now. I don't like the idea of it being a locked down device but it hasn't been an issue for me yet and I can still jailbreak if it becomes one.
1. I use nothing but Macs
2. I have all of my music and video in iTunes anyway for my iPod
3. I have a MobileMe subscription for syncing/backup already
4. I've grown pretty disenchanted with WM. Now, I should have known better when I bought this WM 6 Standard phone, but, while I knew that Standard was somewhat crippled compared with WM Pro, I didn't realize just how crippled it was. I didn't realize that there would be so few applications available for Standard; I didn't realize that it would be so difficult to customize the home screen on Standard. I didn't realize that IE was only marginally better than the extremely mediocre PIE that shipped with PPC 2002 and 2003. There are plenty of other things that I dislike about WM6, but I would hope that they are fixed by now. I am fairly certain that Internet Explorer remains an embarrassment for Microsoft, and I really do want to be able to access the web from my phone in a productive way.
5. I am a customer of Verizon Wireless because, though the signal is weak even with them, it was the only company at the time that companies went digital which provided a signal at my house. This was, two years ago, why I chose to stay with Verizon and not get an iPhone. Well, Verizon remains very weak - it sucks battery life, and it frequently cycles between a signal and no signal - and I've learned that we have decent AT&T coverage here now, including 3G data.
Anyway, for those main reasons, and some minor ones (at this point, can anybody actually think that any WM phone that you buy will ever get more than perhaps one firmware update to a new release of WM?), I think that I'd be foolish not to get an iPhone, and I'd be pretty disappointed if I chose to stick with a WM 6.5 device.
If take my opinion i tell you that i-phone is best among all phone in all criteria
Look, Battery, Colour ,Functionality ,Web browsing other multimedia facility like camera music etc.
After using the phone I found the following -
The browser is so much better than anything WM offered, I actually enjoyed using it, instead of dreading using it.
The media sync works, unlike my previous battles with ActiveSync.
Thousands of quality applications available at pennies on the dollar compared to WM apps. I could buy 10 apps for the iPhone for what I previously spent on one WM application.
The Capacitive Touch Screen works much better for my needs that they stylus based resistive found on Windows Mobile Phones.
A more stable operating environment -- probably due to the fact Apple didn't need to skimp on RAM or software drivers, and only had to deal with one set of drivers for all devices.
When the 32 GB GS came out I jumped on it right away, and am still pretty satisfied, though the HD2 is very tempting IF IT WAS AVAILABLE today in the US. My biggest gripe with the iPhone is AT&T. Verizon's there's a map for that ads nail it. I often travel to smaller communities for work and find phone stuck on EDGE, while my Employer Provided Verizon AirCard is sailing along at 700+kbs. :(
Funny thing if you look at most of reasons, they really aren't focused on the OS. WM can support bigger, higher res screens. WM can support 32 GB of Flash ROM. Their isn't a technical reason we can't get a quality, stable webkit based browser on WM. If Microsoft cared about the platform they could have delivered a sync solution that was reliable, like they have on the Zune. Apps have always been overpriced on WM, primarily because the distribution channel was so messy and expensive for developers and because most WM developers never saw the value in selling in quantity at a lower price point - because the delivery channels weren't there. Again, something MS could and should have addressed.
Here's my standing:
My first PPC
It needed to be “the everything”, “everywhere” device. I wanted to surf the internet, make calls, watch movies, listen to music, get email, find me on a map, SMS/MMS, associate pics to my contacts, have a broad content contact database...it didn't do any of these; well, except play music. Email took an hr to synch. Surfing...HAH! Pay 300$ for GPS equip...HAH! However sound was really very nice and crisp...and to this day my Qtek 1010 still works and is louder than the other phones.
However, everyday there were issues that made this phone insufferable.
Latest edition: Att Tilt 8925
I needed to do all of the above AGAIN. I had very high hopes that this would do it. NO. In fact, this phone was MORE INSUFFERABLE than the qtek. The music sounded crappy and good luck on the mini-usb headphones...HACK! GPS...I had a process which took 15 minutes, but eventually it worked. Calls? What are those? It didn't ring or I couldn't make calls...constantly. Movies...DOUBLE HAHAHA. Unless you preformatted and pushed it to your phone...it wasn't happening. And that CRAP, slop, saw-dust you call a movie viewer developed by some hack on XDA's, triple HAH.
Here's where I think the phone excelled -messaging...the auto-drop word recommendation lists, where very useful...the QWERTY keyboard useful.
But as I stated before, this phone was !@#$#@$% insufferable!! I was literally yelling at this device on a daily basis; because of something SIMPLE I needed to do but couldn’t because of the g*dd*mned phone.
Then I got tired of this shyyt. I bought an iPhone. If that failed I would be lost in the world of PPC's.
The skies turned blue again, and the birds began to sing, and life my friends became much better. You see, without that gnarly, scathing animosity I would have every hour or two from just using the Tilt to perform a SIMPLE function...my life began to take much better shape. Even my boss, who has seen all my PPC's appreciates it...and say's..."that is an awesome phone."
Finally my list is pretty much complete; here's my gags on the iphone...sending SMS messages...SUCKS. Battery life, I want to complain but I can surf faster on this machine than I can a desktop PC. It works 95% of the time...meaning no hiccups, no nonsense, no B.S. Lastly, why are creating playlists on all these devices so impossible. All of them sucked in this arena. Anyway…
I fricking love this iPhone.
I'm a Developer who programs using Microsoft products. If you like to fix things a lot, if you like troubleshooting...a lot, if you like things not to WORK sometimes and not know the reason... Microsoft has a special place for you and a windows mobile device is for that extra special person.
Hey, I admit it...some people just love misery. I was a huge proponent of my WM devices... but I realized that was the only thing working in this relationship.
If you're thinking about getting an iPhone...run, don't walk. Because buying this phone switched the whole dynamic of my software development. My customers experienced much of the same things from my applications. The apple iphone became a model, a mentor, on creating nearly flawless, easy to use, software; and sharing good feelings of value and performance with my customers.
So let’s break it down: you’re still using Microsoft because YOU ARE A LOYAL FOLLOWER. You don’t have the attitude to buy an Apple product. You enjoy solving problems…and lets face it…there are plenty of those on some of these Microsoft Programs/Platforms. I’m not writing off Microsoft, I’m gently waiting for them to ‘get back on the wagon’ and create products of VALUE TO ME. TO ME, ME, ME, I, this little pseudo centric universe called my reality….MEMEMEMEMEMEME. It’s all about me, not Intel, or fricking piracy, or corporate controls, or whatever. It’s about me, and keeping me happy folks. It’s not rocket science.
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